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Adding pictures owned by an other user?

Gustavo Jung
posted this on Jan 16 23:10

Hi.

Today I noticed that someone add a photo owned by another to an article. How is this possible?

That picture doesn't belong to any personal album, and has "All rights reserved".

Here is the example:


08:11 PM

added a photo, Lofoten-012, to the Europe article
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http://www.fotopedia.com/wiki/Europe#!/items/XKFsYel1z0A-2H1hy_-Zh6Q


Details about the image:

Lofoten-012 photo by Volker Gilbert 9 981 All rights reserved.

http://www.fotopedia.com/items/XKFsYel1z0A-2H1hy_-Zh6Q

 

Comments

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Gustavo Jung
January 16, 2012 23:17.
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Dan Marsh
User

It is normal on fotopedia, to be able to add other photographers photos to relevant articles.

January 17, 2012 00:21.
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Damien Roué
Fotopedia

Hello Gustavo. As Dan mentioned it, as a user you can add a photo from an article in Fotopedia to another article. This is particularly helpful if you think the photo should be added to a more specific article, or to a complementary article.

January 17, 2012 10:00.
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Gustavo Jung

I was thinking hard about this, and I'm not sure that this can be completely fair.

I already know that Fotopedia is not about individuals, but a virtual enciclopedia.

Anyway, it's built with personal pictures and, in most of cases, with copyright aplying to them.

Is it fair if I get 100, 1000 or 10.000 points just be adding someone else greatest pictures?

Being a curator is something... and "parasiting" votes is quite different.

As an example:

What if I use the 10 most impressive pictures of Eric Lafforgue, Marji Lang or any others? Am I improving Fotopedia? Or just getting free reputation?

Finnaly:

Shouldn't have the owner, and nobody but him/her, the right of chosing where a picture could be added?

Sorry about my poor english and the lenght of the idea.

January 18, 2012 19:24.
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Dan Marsh
User

No-one's copyright is infringed because the TOS permits photos to be curated and redisplayed in different articles, and fotopedia apps.

The photographer should not sign-up, and agree to those terms, if they're not happy with it.

I think the idea of curating other people's photos is a good one, because some photographers would prefer to have someone else do that work.  If not, they can always immediately add the photo to several articles.

If someone is really that possesive over their photos, why would they upload them at all?  The bigger issue is having photos copied, resused, possbily even sold elsewhere.

January 19, 2012 00:29.
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Alessandra Rusticali

Hi,

I think that the "goal" for all of us is to improve the encyclopedia, it's not only for the reputation.
I usually upload my own photo but sometimes when I find good shots that I think relevant in some articles, I add them.
It's true that you can gain some points, but the score is on the photo itself

January 24, 2012 18:53.
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Damien Roué
Fotopedia

Hi everyone,

First of all, since the creation of Fotopedia, we allow members to use photos from others to complete the encyclopedia. This is the case with photos under Creative Commons licenses on Flickr, but also with the photos on Fotopedia. The opportunity to nominate these photos in other articles is an important principle of Fotopedia and this provide additional relevancy and accuracy to the photo encyclopedia. This is especially true for people who have strong knowledge in one area, but do not have beautiful photographs to illustrate it.

Be aware that when someone nominates a photo from a photographer in another article, the author is notified by email. If the picture is badly nominated, the author can report the problem using the "irrelevant" flag. If the moderators confirm it, the picture will of course be removed from the article and the member who nominated the photo will receive a penalty (not the author). We are currently considering increasing the penalty to avoid blind cross publication between articles.

Some photographers also told us that when their photos were reused for another article, they wanted to be rewarded. We are in favor of a system with shared points between the nominator and the photographer (if different), and we will see how to put this in place.

Finally, to avoid that too many photos are nominated in general articles (such as Europe, Africa, etc.), we are considering a mechanism to only accept very good photos in those general articles.

Thank you all for your comments.

January 25, 2012 16:55.